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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 13, 2012 9:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Team Fillmore East

Some pretty wonderful footage here of Jerry and the guys on 2/14/70. All wearing those Fillmore East jerseys. Man what would those 'game worn' uni's fetch on eBay these days?
One reviewer states this is the only known footage of a 1970 acoustic performance (IBAATW).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz-rbYmQJDk&;feature=fvwrel
Some Dark Star for good measure near the end.......

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 13, 2012 11:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Poor quality of course, but it is great to see them in their prime. We even get a closeup of Mickey playing in Dark Star!
Only the Dark Star part was available before - since these are just random pieces of the show, it makes me think the whole thing might have been filmed.
I think Don't Ease Me In from the Festival Express film was from an acoustic set.

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 16, 2012 11:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

One last question LIA.
We see Bob and Jerry performing alone on 2/14/70 with this amounting to the Dead's acoustic set for the evening. And we see almost the whole band onstage during the Festival Express version of 'Don't Ease.'
Is it safe to say there was a distinct evolution of band members who participated onstage over time in these acoustic sets (B & J in the beginning, and then at some point they switched to a basically whole band approach).... or on any given night was it left to whoever felt like joining Jerry and Bob for these tunes?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 16, 2012 11:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Yes, there was an evolution. It started out just Bob & Jerry in the beginning, then by April they added Phil and Bill for the acoustic sets. (I think Bill was always the only drummer in the acoustic set, since Mickey played in the NRPS set - if you look at that Don't Ease, Mickey's drums aren't even set up.)

It was very rare for Pigpen to play harmonica in the acoustic sets, like we saw in Festival Express. Wish we had more from that show!
I think it was also rare for them to be standing up in the acoustic set...probably just because that was an outdoor gig; but in other acoustic-set photos I've seen, they're seated.

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 13, 2012 12:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

I thought the camera turn over to Mickey was remarkable as well.
Have you ever heard of this performance, or any from this era, being filmed? One of Bill Grahams associates perhaps. The way Jerry was moving during Hard To Handle was cool, sort of prowling-in-place if you will. Completely immersed, both mind and body, in the performance.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 14, 2012 12:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

I used to think maybe it was a Fillmore East in-house camera.
But then again, I can't really think of any FE shows that Graham filmed in 1970 (that we know of). Maybe someone knows of other clips from this period?
On the other hand, no way Graham & crew would let an audience member film, especially from that close. A camera couldn't be hidden! So it's kind of a mystery who would've been filming.

Yes, Jerry did move a little bit during Hard to Handle! If we had more footage from the early years, we would probably see him become more immobile over the years.
If you remember the Newport '68 footage, he was right up at the front of the stage bouncing up & down while he played:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJcMUMh5IA8
I've heard other reports of him playing like that early on. I guess that phased out around '69.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Oct 14, 2012 1:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

uhmmm, you guys correctly noticed (and noted) a "discreet camera", but, you should have checked in with the village idiot first...

All kidding aside, that's not film. That's video. This is shot with a single video camera, and it was recorded onto video tape.

The cameraman-taper appears to be standing near an aisle about one section back, and off to the right audience side, during Hard To Handle. All these people keep walking by, like it's an aisle there in front of him. Yet, the acoustic footage looks like it may have been shot from slightly above, as if he was up in the balcony, and up front. Dark Star looks like he is standing in front of the stage off to the right.

As any Taper would say, "this is the shit!"

All these shots look like he is shooting with a handheld video camera up around his chin (not over the shoulder, and not on a tripod). Shooting video like this "out in the field" (portable) was something new (not film). It's amazing that the video is this good when it is shot in such low-light conditions. I am assuming this audio is overdubbed and synched to the video.

The 1968 Newport Pop footage is actual film (not video), multi-camera.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Oct 14, 2012 10:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

a couple of things. first, the night before was the first time i saw the Grateful Dead so this i really cool for me. Second there was other footage that is very similar in quality so i'm gonna guess it was an in-house person. here's jimi hendrix and band of gypsies about one month earlier on new years eve:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9AaQQbvT4M&;feature=related

This post was modified by Jeff Kaplan on 2012-10-15 05:04:23

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Poster: FEphotographer Date: Oct 15, 2012 3:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

The black and white Band of Gypsys video is from New Year's Day January 1, 1970 and was made by Jan Blom on the Sony port-a-pak 1/2 inch camera and deck, the only and first portable video set-up at that time in history. (The fine quality color 16mm material was shot by me on New Year's Eve. In any event, it shouldn't be on YouTube or anywhere else since it was pirated in the film lab when I had the transfers made to video in 1989.) The black and white Grateful Dead material from February 14, 1970 is new to me and I would very much like to know who made it and where the video surfaced from. Since I was always there, being on the Fillmore East staff, in general I knew who was doing what when it came to media. This source is unknown to me. However, I have photographs of this show, one of which I offer here.

Attachment: GD12_B_W.jpg

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Oct 15, 2012 9:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

welcome to the forum! that's a great photo. of course i'd love to see more from the night before to find my young self. i was stage left in about the 10 row for the early show iirc.

the band of gypsys tape imo is one of the most important videos in rock history. i consider that perfomance of Machine Gun to be the pinnacle of Jimi Hendix career and (with all apologies to Jerry Garcia) the single best guitar solo in history. so thank you for being there with a camera to record it.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Oct 15, 2012 11:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

That Jimi footage you linked to on YouTube looks like it was shot with the same Sony port-a-pak model as the one used for the new GD footage. The huge difference is that the Jimi video tape was in way, way better condition during playback when it was transferred. It could be the tapes were kept somewhere different? The GD tape is damaged and the Jimi tape is not.

Is this Jan Blom (or perhaps the Fillmore East videographer)?
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The videographer in this new image is using the same model Sony portapak, and he is shooting Rock n Roll professionally here. He has his VTR inside a portapak cover. He's not using any cover on his camera. To correct myself, the VTR probably contains all the batteries, so the camera power is coming up the umbilical cord.

Also, the Jimi video footage was shot more steady-cam style. It is way less shaky than the GD footage, except for the acoustic song. I think that song and the Jimi footage were shot using a small tripod or pedestal with a camera head. Below is an image of such a rig for Sony's vintage b & w portapak.

click to enlarge this image to 800 x 600
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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Oct 15, 2012 5:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Really excellent photographic record FEP. Note that video camera directly in front of Pig is huge. We appreciate your sharing insights here.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Oct 15, 2012 8:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

I taped AUDs of GD w/ my tape deck slung over my shoulder like this
sony.gif

Re: John's comment, "huge video camera"
images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQY3P_iB5D7009n0GiHxETg22gcjqrkKYn-8gWj2z8RBg6DLeHb

First of all, it had to contain an image-orthicon-type video tube like the one shown above, not to mention, lots of electronics and a power supply. Notice the lens is no slouch either, being bigger than the photographer's fist. And its "zooming power" is demonstrated quite impressively during Hard To Handle. What I can say is, this camera is pretty small sized for early 1970 when compared to what Broadcasters were using.

Sony camera and 1/2" open reel videotape recorder (Portapak) introduced to the market in 1967
portapak.jpg

Thanks for providing your priceless photo to The Archive!

FEphotographer-GD12_B_W.jpg

Here are some one-inch-tape VTRs in this pic of me. They are Ampex model VPR-2B. This was photographed at USA Network broadcast center, Armstrong Tower, Alpine, NJ, springtime 1982. Here's a pic of me in their master control room.

usa-network-monte.jpg



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Poster: vapors Date: Oct 15, 2012 4:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Looks like the guy on the right in front of Pigpen's organ is holding a video(?) camera.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 15, 2012 11:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Wow, lots of informative stuff here.
The Hendrix video is great; I wasn't sure whether it was a random audience taper or a BG-approved thing.

Your picture of the Dead is especially cool because we can see the video-taper of this film! (Solves what camera was used, anyway.) Makes me think he had to be BG-approved as well, as I can't believe the FE crew would let an audience member stand up front & film like that.
And since that photo comes from a different song than we see in the clips, more of the show must have been taped.

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 15, 2012 12:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

It's obviously not the acoustic number or the Pig tune, but it's not necessarily Dark Star because...?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 16, 2012 10:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Well, with both drummers drumming, Pigpen on organ, and the whole audience clapping along, it's clearly not a Dark Star moment!
Since Pigpen didn't play organ in many songs, I wonder if we could narrow down which moment it is...

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Oct 15, 2012 12:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

The acoustic GD song on tape is shot from above. The Jimi video is shot from above. Both camera shots appear to be "not" handheld. It looks like each videographer is shooting from the same balcony location on the right. The Jimi video is shot more professionally. The zooms and pans are smoother and less jerky than GD acoustic song video. It looks like the Jimi camera is crudely mounted to a fluid head on top of a tripod or pedestal. The GD acoustic song footage has pans and zooms which are hardly professional. This camera's head is likely not a fluid head, but it's not shaky like the other GD songs (appearing handheld), so it's mounted very crudely onto something firm. The Jimi camera's video has a better contrast ratio, so it looks like the iris setting is more optimal while shooting and taping. The GD camera lens goes out of focus a lot when zooming in and out, so maybe his back-focusing lens adjustment was out of adjustment. In my village idiot opinion, the guy shooting GD video was not really professional, but the guy who shot the Jimi video was. The Jimi cameraman was better prepared. The guy shooting GD video looks like a taper-hipster who was "winging it" during an "inside job". FEphotographer's image shows how well the FE staff are accommodating him.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 16, 2012 11:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Also note that Dark Star was from the early 2/14 show, while Hard to Handle & All Around This World were from the late show. So not only did the cameraman move around to different spots, he caught both shows that day. (And since we're talking about a film clip that's edited together, it's possible there was more than one cameraman, too.)

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Oct 14, 2012 6:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Correct me if I'm wrong, Monte. (one village idiot to another...) Although the technology existed since the 50s, I don't remember any consumer "camcorder" models as early as 1970, and I think the first VHS machines appeared late 71 or early 72. The first "consumer" camcorders were large, cumbersome - about the size of a briefcase and weighed about 12-15 lbs. Most needed an electrical outlet nearby, as the batteries wore out in no time. My first memories of these is in the late 70s, no one I knew could afford these.

Is it possible this was filmed originally, then a crude transfer was made to tape ? (ie, shot off the wall ?) I agree with all your other assessments, btw. This IS the shit.

edit: After another look, I now agree with Monte - all the artifacting / light streaks / after images must come from a primitive video camera, not film. Just curious who could have such equipment, it would have been very expensive and bulky.

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 14, 2012 3:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

H2H & IBAATW are in fact the 'Bear's Choice' versions, correct?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 16, 2012 11:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Yes.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Oct 13, 2012 8:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Thank-you Reade. What a great find/post. That isn't even a turbo-fueled HtH and it makes me want to jump sideways fifty yards in each direction, loop-de-loop, proclaiming this is The God Darn Grateful Dead! Down home AATW clutching my heartstrings. And D/S... Micky, ect.. If they released crappy vids, well produced as this one, I'd buy. Snippets of January '68... October'68 ... May '69 ....

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Oct 13, 2012 10:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Really enjoyed it, esp. the way they stood closely for DS, engaged in a musical dialogue...

thanks...

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 14, 2012 9:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: those jerseys

I've never seen a still photo of Jerry in his Fillmore East jersey, in performance or otherwise, on this night or any other.
Phil and Bill however wore their's for the outdoor gig in Wisconsin about ten weeks later. As the stills from that afternoon are in color we can see that they're purple with white trim.

http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=65733
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=65737

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Poster: Skull Roses Date: Aug 24, 2013 2:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: those jerseys

The jerseys saw "Fillmore WEST" on them.

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 15, 2012 11:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: those jerseys

Well, thanks to FE photographer, I have NOW seen a still of Jerry in a FE jersey. (From the same night as the video).

A few notes about these jerseys, in the event anybody gives a hoot (I know, not bloody likely)........

I noted with mild embarrassment after posting the links above to photos of Phil and Billy wearing their FE jerseys in Wisconsin a coupla months later ...that they are in fact NOT the same jersey at all. P & B's have shoulder striping and the Fillmore East lettering is different and somewhat larger. Plus, again with respect to the photo shared by FE I can see that both Phil and Bill ARE NOT wearing the same FE jerseys as the rest of the band the night of 2/14/70, or in fact any FE jersey at all. (They are the two most obscure members of the unit given the video from 2/14- they're hard to see at all much less what they're wearing. I guess I assumed after seeing Jerry and Bob and Pig and Mickey similarly attired that they all had them on). It interests me that the two guys who aren't wearing FE jerseys on the night of 2/14 are the same and only two who are wearing them at the York Farm gig in Wisconsin on 4/26. Like Bill Graham didn't have enough to go around in February but he made it up to them at some point subsequently, tho not with the identical jerseys. (Talk about conspiracy theories- there you go!)

Now since this all had me dive into my copy of 'Live at the Fillmore East; a Photographic Memoir,' by Amalie Rothschild, I've think I've determined the following, and formed one question:

*There's a photo from 2/14 that shows NONE of the band in any FE jerseys so I'm thinking.... they played 2 shows that night? An acoustic and electric set in both?

*With regard to the different types of FE jerseys, photos (and their captions) in this book of FE staff meetings make it clear that there were two different kinds of Fillmore East staff, Ushers and House/Security staff.

*There's a photo of an Usher-only staff meeting and the only jerseys in evidence are identical to the ones worn by Bill and Phil in Wisconsin in April. So those two got Usher jerseys.

*There's a photo of an All-Staff meeting where both jersey types are in evidence, the Usher kind and the other variety worn by the band on 2/14. So it seems clear the jerseys worn by the guys on 2/14 are House/Security jerseys. There's a photo of a guy selling tickets at the front window- he'd be House Staff- and he has this type on.

*There is a third type of jersey just to gum everything up. It is similar to the Usher jersey but has a number on the front and back, ala a football jersey. And on this version nowhere do the words 'FE' appear- that in particular seems odd to me, but they do appear on more than one staff member, and in more than one photo. In particular, a photo of the Dead performing on 1/2/70 shows two of these guys (with the numbered jerseys) pressed up to the front of the stage, enjoying the performance with others. I'm guessing after a certain point in the evening after everybody had found their seat, etc., staff might have been free to boogie like everybody else. (Interestingly, this particular photo appears to be taken from the same place as the acoustic number (IBAATW) in the video, a little mini-balcony that was positioned above a side fire exit that was referred to in the book as a 'sound booth.')

What can I say? The morning was cold and damp, the coffee hot and delicious,... ya gotta give me a pass on this one people!

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Poster: bitman84 Date: May 1, 2014 7:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: those jerseys

Great investigation! I've been looking for one of those things for a long time. Curious if anyone out there knows where I might be able to find an original Fillmore East or West staff shirt?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 16, 2012 11:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: those jerseys

This is quite an investigation!
Yes, I think the staff were free to boogie once the show got going.
There were two shows - only the late show had an acoustic set (due to time issues, probably).
Are you sure the alternate photo is from the same day? There are photos from the 2/11/70 show where they're dressed differently.
This photo is from 2/14, and it shows Phil & Billy wearing the FE jersey as well - which they're not in FEPhotog's picture:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/SkyDawg_photos/19700214_2194.jpg
In the video, Bill is in the white shirt in Hard to Handle from the late show (same as FEPhotog's photo) - Phil is invisible.
While in the Dark Star (from the early show) Phil is wearing the jersey.
So my guess is Phil & Bill changed shirts between shows... Which shows that FEPhotog's photo comes from the late show. (Another proof that it's not from the Dark Star medley!)

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 16, 2012 12:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: those jerseys

The book I mentioned has, according to the captions that accompany the photos, stills of the Dead performing at the Fillmore East on 1/2/70, 2/11/70, and 2/14/70. All taken from that mini-balcony / sound booth to the stage-left side, above a fire exit. No Dead photo in the entire book is said to be from 2/13.

The photo that's attributed to 2/14/70 has none of the band members wearing FE jerseys as I mentioned- Jerry's in a black T-shirt and Bob's shirt is very light if not dead white. (It was used with the Dick's Pick's Vol. 4 packaging- Pig and Bob at microphones, Phil standing behind the drummers, some sort of smoke wafting above the amps, etc.)
In the 2/11 photo (with the Allmans on stage too), Bob has on a dark shirt and Pig's for that matter is a much darker shirt than he wore in the photo said to be form 2/14 also.

Soooooo, with what you've mentioned all I can think is maybe this '2/14' photo is mis-identified in the book?, and is actually from 2/13?

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Poster: Skull Roses Date: Aug 24, 2013 2:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: those jerseys

The purple and white jerseys say "Fillmore WEST" on them.

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